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Moving Back to Canada from Hong Kong


Important News:


November 2019:

"So, now what?" These continue to be very concerning times for many Canadians in Hong Kong and a question on many people's minds is "Now what? What happens next?". In light of the recent escalation of the intensity of protests, please take a moment now to ensure that you have a Canadian "Plan B" for your life. Consider what life might look like if you move back to Canada either temporarily or permanently as part of the current and coming changes in HK.

Use the resources on this Hong Page-specific page and this whole web site to help you plan a temporary, staged, or permanent return to Canada if it is the right thing for you to do in the coming months.

Need help with your move back to Canada? Please engage my professional support to get the support you need right now.



Introduction


Returning to Canada from Hong Kong

Returning to Canada from Hong Kong can be a smooth and easy transition or a more complicated one, depending on how long you have been away from Canada and whether your life conditions have changed dramatically. Given the long history between Hong Kong and Vancouver, particularly, it is no surprise that many people are moving back and forth. Some stay in Hong Kong for only a couple of years and others live there for decades before deciding to return and take up residence in Canada again.

There is currently a strong push for many of the approximately 300,000 Canadians living in Hong Kong, and non-Canadians residents of Hong Kong as well, to move to Canada: "A third of Hong Kong’s population wants to leave, says a survey released by the Chinese University of Hong Kong earlier this month – and Canada was cited as the most desired destination" (January 13, 2019, The Globe and Mail). As Hong Kong has a population of 7.5 million, one-third is a lot of people wanting to come to Canada!

Before you, the Canadian citizen living in Hong Kong, decide to move back to Canada it is likely a good idea to really consider why you want to move back. Life in Canada really is quite different from life in Hong Kong, and not just because of taxes and real estate!

Some of the commonalities between Canada and Hong Kong:



Some of the differences between Canada and Hong Kong:




Resources for returning to Canada from Hong Kong


Moving your belongings

Moving your household from Hong Kong to Canada by sea container

Unless you can ship by air freight a few suitcases and boxes, a 20' or 40' sea container is likely your best option for shipping things from Hong Kong. The more or less direct path to Vancouver makes this the most reasonable option for medium and large households.

Patrick W. shares his tips on shipping your belongings back after living in Hong Kong for over 20 years:

I have been living in Hong Kong most of the time, and am shipping the household stuff from there. Make sure you compare prices and services there when you are choosing the shipper. Our apartment is less than 400 sqft net, but was first quoted by Baltrans with a 20' container (~1050 cuft) costing HK$42K. As we have stuff in a separate warehouse, they charge additional HK$3.5K for the pickup and packing. We then contacted Santa Fe, who estimated our volume more professionally at ~580 cuft with a final quote of HK$27K. I questioned Baltrans how they come up with 1050 cuft., and told them another company's estimation is 580 cuft only. Baltrans came up with a revised quote with volume at 680 cuft., then further reduced to 580 cuft. but they increased the unit cuft cost so there was little difference in the final quote i.e. ~HK$32K. When asked how they provided the updated estimated volume vs. higher unit cuft cost, their sales manager just blasted off saying there is no money in the business and he has been reducing his price from HK$45K! He strongly advised us to go with another company who is offering lower cost, and said he did not want our business.... We did and worked with Santa Fe. They are professional in the sales and pickup/packing processes. So far, I am happy with them and am awaiting the cargo to be delivered in Vancouver.

- Patrick W. Thank you, Patrick for sharing your experiences and suggestions!


Taxes

As mentioned above, taxes are the #1 area I support clients with who are moving back to Canada. Hong Kong has really low overall taxes, including income tax. Canada has a much higher overall tax impact on earnings and spending. Being careful to have a clear "non-resident" relationship to Canada means you can move back and not be taxed on any of your earnings and accumulated wealth you bring with you.

For more information on taxes, please see the Tax, Accounting, and Banking resource on this web site.

If your situation is complicated and/or you wish to get clear financial guidance when you return, please consider my professional support for your return.


Foreign Exchange & sending money to Canada

Obviously, there are foreign exchange implications between Hong Kong and Canada. You may be holding several currencies while in Hong Kong, including of course, HKD and USD. When you return to Canada you may be converting funds to CAD, which is highly influenced by the USD.

As the HKD is basically pegged to the USD and changes very little compared to the USD, the real currency to be concerned with is the USD in the context of your move back to Canada or the return of funds to Canada.

Best time to convert Hong Kong dollars to Canadian dollars

The above graph gives you a snapshot of the exchange rate over time. Movements in rates are not as dramatic as between other currencies, but this is a time of tremendous change in economies and politics around the world and there can be unusual shifts coming up.

Some foreign exchange considerations:


Sending money to Canada


In Canada you can open a bank account in USD and CAD. However, even more international banks like HSBC have a challenge with HKD in Canada. So please note that when you plan to send your funds to Canada, do so in USD or CAD. And be sure to give lots of time for setting up an account in Canada and funding it prior to your move back.

C. Ho, shares their experience with working with HSBC to set up a bank account in Canada in preparation for a house purchase and their family's move back:

I opened an acct in Victoria with HSBC and moved cash there so I could put down a down payment on a home there. It took about a month to do this since I had to go to the international banking division of HSBC in HK and then they applied for me to get a Canadian acct, then I had to wait for a Welcome Package to be mailed to me in HK then I had to take this back to the HK HSBC main branch and only then was I able to move the cash to Canada. I missed the bid on the home because this took so long and I was also told by my real estate agent that the money had to be in Canada for 30 days because of all the shady business lately. On top of this when I told my local HSBC I wanted to move my Hong Kong dollars to Canada they said I couldn't because my Canadian acct could acct HKD because it wasn't a global currency (shocked) so now I have to go back to the main branch again and open another Canadian acct that is an international funds acct. I had wrongly assumed that HSBC was a global bank that could do things quickly and efficiently.

Lifestyle

As mentioned earlier, lifestyles are very different in Canada than in Hong Kong. Think VERY carefully about what kind of life you are considering in Canada before you make the move back. Here are a few lifestyle considerations when thinking of returning to Canada:


In summary, lifestyle differences can be considerable between Hong Kong and Canada. Be sure to really understand them. A client who moved back to BC in 2019 chose a smaller place in the province over returning to the Greater Vancouver Area. He did this to give his family a different experience. While culture shock will be a reality for his family it will give them an opportunity to live life differently. Is this something you want? Or would you prefer a more traditional lifestyle in a city like Vancouver or Toronto?


Real Estate

One of the key questions I hear from clients is whether to keep or sell their real estate in Hong Kong. Given the events of 2019, this may be a non-question for many as it is hard to sell their properties as of the latest update of this resource in Fall 2019. But some general considerations can help:

On one hand, those living in Hong Kong are encouraged to keep their real estate because they are hearing "prices will go up in the future!" or they might want to keep a foothold in Hong Kong in case they wish to return some day.

On the other hand, prices might not go up, they might need the funds to purchase a property in Canada or for living costs here, and/or they might want to have all their assets in Canada once they return. This last point - having all assets in Canada - can be important for a sense of security and safety given the complicated times in Hong Kong and the world at this point in history.

Clearly, there is no definitive answer and every client context is different.

Should you wish to keep real estate in Hong Kong instead of selling it when you return, be sure to have a valuation done of it at the time of your move. This value is the basis upon which you will calculate gains for Canadian tax purposes because once you are resident in Canada again, your world-wide income and capital gains are taxable here.

A resource to help you determine the value of your Hong Kong real estate:

"How much is your [Hong Kong] home really worth?"

For thoughts on purchasing real estate in Canada once you return, check out the "Buying real estate in Canada" page of this site.




Your idea? Your thoughts? Your experiences?

Your ideas, considerations, and experiences?

Canadians living in Hong Kong planning on moving back to Canada: Please share your ideas, thoughts, and experiences relating to returning to Canada from Hong Kong. I will post your thoughts here as help for others. Along with a credit to you will be a big thank you on behalf of the many people you will be helping!

Thank you!

Paul Kurucz

Canada

Latest update to this page: October 2019.





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Your questions about when to move back, taxes, investments and finances, bringing back your household belongings, health care, and more will be answered promptly and professionally, with resources to back up what you need. My 16 years of supporting over 1,000 clients gives me a depth of expertise across all aspects of planning and returning to Canada.

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A happy client:

Hi Paul,

Just to update you - we landed and sailed through customs! So thank you so much for all of your advice...It was a thoroughly pleasant experience.

This is to say thank you for everything. Your advisory has been so incredibly helpful and saved us considerable time and removed room for error.

With best wishes,

Caroline

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